From ... Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsfeed1.ulv.nextra.no!nextra.com!uio.no!nntp.uio.no!ifi.uio.no!not-for-mail From: Erik Naggum Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp Subject: Re: Difference between LISP and C++ Date: 31 Oct 2002 20:32:10 +0000 Organization: Naggum Software, Oslo, Norway Lines: 23 Message-ID: <3245085130079706@naggum.no> References: <3243273566631700@naggum.no> <0e65oa.7e9.ln@rabbit.ddts.net> <3DB74DC0.B69AC65D@enterprise.net> <3DB7E47F.8000802@web.de> <3DBD1ED2.4070305@web.de> <84r8e9n4ka.fsf@despairon.bofh.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: maud.ifi.uio.no 1036096331 29878 129.240.65.5 (31 Oct 2002 20:32:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@ifi.uio.no NNTP-Posting-Date: 31 Oct 2002 20:32:11 GMT Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.lisp:45334 * Tim Bradshaw | What it [Java] is, though, is a fantastic piece of engineering. * Joe Marshall | It's a fantastic piece of marketing. But unlike Microosft's fantastic marketing, what was marketed was not the absence of a language so that nobody else would try to take the place of their future product while they incompetently tried to make something that would meet their wildly inflated expectations and forever promising more so people would not want to change to something actually better lest they miss out on the fantastic future of their crappy products, but an actual language with significant technical support behind it. Instead of rivaling L. Ron Hubbard and other religion-makers with 10% explanation and 90% promises, Sun actually delivered a programming language and a solid technology. Tim's assessment as a fantastic piece of engineering is certainly how I regard Java, too. -- Erik Naggum, Oslo, Norway Act from reason, and failure makes you rethink and study harder. Act from faith, and failure makes you blame someone and push harder.