Subject: Re: Idiot's guide to special variables take 2
From: Erik Naggum <>
Date: 16 Nov 2002 00:51:54 +0000
Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp
Message-ID: <>

* Erann Gat
| Your comment about my guide not being "for people who seek to understand"
| sounded like criticism to me.  (In fact, it sounded like more than
| criticism.  It sounded like an insult.)

  And since it sounded like that to you, you take it upon yourself to
  revenge it, is that it?  Some primitive cultures, notably in the Middle
  East, have a concept of "honor" that makes it impossible to say anything
  to them that could conceivably cause them to lose their fragile self-image
  of their honor.  I have no intention whatsoever of catering to primitive
  cultures, wherever they may have been exported or imported or whoever
  suffers from their anti-intellectual notions that turn a statement of
  fact into an insult that turns these rabidly irrational people into hate
  machines that believe they revenge an attack that was never there, and
  therefore prevent them from understanding that they in fact attack first
  and thus do not even grasp that their openly hostile acts are unfair and
  provide legitimate reason for rebuttal and rejection, if not defense.

| Obviously I did not mean to claim that CLTLN and the standard don't
| exist.  What I meant (again at the risk of stating the painfully obvious)
| was that you didn't write them.

  The relevance of which being ...?  This is so stupid a line of argument
  that you should be happy that I do not call you on it further.  Drop it.

| I would like very much to improve the Guide, but I find absolutely
| nothing in anything you've written that's going to (or even intended to)
| help me do that.

  I think it would be improved by being removed.  I think you would be
  improved by being removed, too, since you are such an annoying, hostile
  person who never seem to be able to read anything I write without seeing
  an insult that you have to attack me for.  Realize that your perception
  of what I write is mainly in your own head.  You should have learned by
  now that because you feel a certain way does not mean that there was any
  intention to make you feel that way.  Some people here on c.l.l seize any
  and all opportunity to be insulted and therefore attack me regardless of
  what I actually say, and you are one of them.  You are broken, Erann Gat.
  Repair yourself and stop inflicting your malfunction on me.  Thank you.

Erik Naggum, Oslo, Norway

Act from reason, and failure makes you rethink and study harder.
Act from faith, and failure makes you blame someone and push harder.