Subject: Re: Ethics in programming;  not likel
From: Erik Naggum <>
Date: 1995/10/20
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[Colin James III]

|   The first two first rate scholars;  Don Knuth is a first rate
|   educator.
|   Stallman is not a scholar, or an educator.  Stallman is an avowed
|   humanist, placing man at the center of the universe, not God.

a religious fanatic at work.  how quaint.

|   Stallman has had absolutely no effect whatsoever on the development of
|   Eiffel, as far as I know, and no Eiffel compiler vendor has bought into
|   the lame gnu license copywrong.

this may be why Eiffel is not much used.

|   Your argument is invalid, and your ethics reek of subterfuge. 

before anyone replies to "the retired reverend", note that his attitude to
responding to those who reply to him is as follows:

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    Colin James III (The Rt Rev'd) does not read electronic mail which is
    unsolicited, as was the post above, but may be reached by US Mail at:

    CEC Services
    2080 Kipling Street
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ignore him.  there are always people who will work against anything great.
typically, they hide behind some religion to denigrate good men to please
their own fantasies.

RMS has certainly changed my mind over the past decade, from ardent
believer in the right to control software, but this is like refusing
students of the theater to read plays unless they pay for the right to
perform it, to ardent believer in the benefits of reading source code.
like in all other written art, one learns by studying the masters.  RMS has
made this possible and now also popular in the art of software.  if
anything, the lasting effect of his work will be improved skills among
programmers, a true historic effect on the art.  considering the quality of
commercial software, we should be thankful that someone is workign to give
students of programming access to the great lore of their predecessors,
instead of reinventing wheels over and over again.

I'd nominate RMS for a Nobel Prize in Literature, for bringing the art of
writing computer software into the realm of the literate.

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