From ... From: Erik Naggum Subject: Re: Thoughts on Franz Inc., ACL pricing, etc. Date: 1997/03/30 Message-ID: <3068679240706763@naggum.no>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 229363939 References: <01bc39b7$56e04cf0$097286cf@filbert> <333a786e.40716567@news.ultranet.com> mail-copies-to: never Organization: Naggum Software; +47 2295 0313; http://www.naggum.no Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp * Cyber Surfer | If any Windows developers are reading this, and have tried this tactic | and made it work, then I'd appreciate any advise you can give me. Erik's | advise seems to be just to do it, as he's said nothing about how to deal | with the consequences. In fact, he seems to be denying that there _are_ | any consequences. Perhaps I've misunderstood him? I don't think so, but | if I have, then I'd appreciate knowing what it is that I've missed. fuck you, Martin Rodgers. your incessant use of the word "deny" to try to make your opponents appear to say something very different from what they do in fact say is so foul play, so dishonest, so disgustingly manipulative that it pales in comparison to the extremely negative marketing campaigns against Lisp and Lisp vendors that you seem to enjoy perpetrating. that you're too damn stupid to understand what you're doing, doesn't help. cut the crap, will you, and go back to work. with your campaigns against Lisp, I would really be surprised if anybody ever let you near a Lisp job. considering the campaigns where you lie about what others "deny", I would very much doubt that anybody who have read your crap will let you out of your C++/Windows hell. if anybody deserve programming for Windows, you do. | While Erik may be speaking for the Lisp programmers free of the limited | demands of most Windows people, is it not possible that I might be | speaking for those programmers who are less fortunate? "less fortunate"? may whatever god you believe in destroy you! you're a lazy, whining bum, and that's all. your situation has nothing whatsoever to do with being "fortunate" -- you don't do shit to improve your own condition, you only want others to provide you with "features" you "need" without making the slightest effort to get there yourself. while some of us have worked hard for years to use Lisp in a commercial setting, you have the _gall_ to call yourself "less fortunate"! get the hell out of the way. #\Erik -- I'm no longer young enough to know everything.