From ... From: Erik Naggum Subject: Re: Off topic: FSF, Emacs and XEmacs (was Re: help! absolute beginner) Date: 1998/12/16 Message-ID: <3122837945282209@naggum.no>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 423042024 References: <871zm9i623.fsf@piracy.red-bean.com> <3122309940941584@naggum.no> <863e6mopnj.fsf@g.pet.cam.ac.uk> <3122429737934433@naggum.no> <3675D070.A9786474@flash.net> <3122685146348197@naggum.no> <36781dcf.6493477@news.newsguy.com> <3122774512682606@naggum.no> <87d85kih7j.fsf_-_@2xtreme.net> mail-copies-to: never Organization: Naggum Software; +47 8800 8879; http://www.naggum.no Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp * cbarry@2xtreme.net (Christopher R. Barry) | This is kinda off topic, but after all your talk Erik about your | involvement with the FSF and Emacs, and all the things you had to say | about what's wrong with Emacs, I'm kinda curious about what your "from | the _inside_ of the FSF" view of XEmacs is. well, nobody cares. XEmacs is a bunch of hateful lunatics who appear to take pleasure in attacking Emacs users and maintainers for no good reason yet aren't anywhere near as good at what they're doing as the Emacs people are (except in the MULE division, where XEmacs got it right and the MULE team in Emacs act as if they think that because Japan suffered exclusion for a lot of years, now Europe can suffer, instead). | I can see in your X-Newsreader header that you're using Stallmacs instead | of XEmacs, you can? really? "Stallmacs", even? look, you should know by now that I hate idiots. do me a favor and haul your ass over to Bagdad, OK? but since you bring it up, look a little closer: X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.2003 doesn't look much like "Stallmacs" to me. I get the impression that you aren't very careful in collecting evidence before you jump to conclusions. I need some evidence that XEmacs proponents aren't _all_ fucking morons, and you're not it, so let me just can this off topic discussion right now. #:Erik -- Attention, Republican members of the House Judiciary Committee! We have intercepted a coded transmission from Bill Clinton to Saddam Hussein that puts your life in jeopardy. Clinton is prepared to cease fire if all of you are killed by Iraqi terrorists, whom he won't prosecute. Be warned!