Subject: Re: Learning curve for common lisp
From: Erik Naggum <>
Date: 1999/01/23
Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp
Message-ID: <>

* (Kenneth P. Turvey)
| The extensions to Common Lisp that make up CLOS are probably a bit
| easier to understand (and more powerful) than the extensions to C that
| lead to C++ (a bit of a simplification). 

  another item on this issue is that Common Lisp benefited from CLOS in
  very serious ways, so now it's hardly possible to talk about Common Lisp
  without CLOS even when none of the CLOS features are _requested_ by the
  programmer, but it's still possible to talk about C without the ++, and
  as far as I know, none of the benefits of C++ are available unless you
  request those features specifically.

  I think this makes Common Lisp easier to understand and CLOS even less of
  a burden for an experienced Common Lisp programmer to learn, but as is
  usual, you need to discover the need before learning how to do it.

  SIGTHTBABW: a signal sent from Unix to its programmers at random
  intervals to make them remember that There Has To Be A Better Way.