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From: Erik Naggum <erik@naggum.no>
Subject: Re: Java is really convenient. Re: Sun thinks about switching Java to S-expression syntax: Lava
Date: 1999/02/23
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* mikemac@mikemac.com (Mike McDonald)
| (I found it extremely ironic that management decided it was OK for me to
| make up an extention language!  I guess they felt they could find lots of
| experienced engineers in whatever I made up.)

  this is a point worth latching on to, actually.  you can often get a
  foot-hold on management (or perhaps just a foot in the door) by pointing
  out that you don't _need_ a new custom-built extension language, it's all
  well-defined and standard and you can even write actual applications in
  it.  sometimes, management will accept any sort of "scripting", but will
  balk on actual programming in "odd" languages.  the way to exploit this
  sillitude is to  abuse the management vocabulary and just refer to Lisp
  as a scripting language until it is sufficiently entrenched, such as by
  pretending that CL in "Allegro CL" is a Roman numeral and that the 150th
  version is pretty darn stable.

#:Erik