From ... From: Erik Naggum Subject: Re: Allegro Date: 1999/11/13 Message-ID: <3151491324133227@naggum.no>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 548124504 References: <382a0559.10059622@news.wanadoo.es> <1e13vnf.z0reytyrq4uaN%cheitzin@ag.or.at> <382bf4ae.421301@news.wanadoo.es> <3151427428100052@naggum.no> <382c92f2.29958253@news.wanadoo.es> <3151446313767959@naggum.no> <382d49b0.605505@news.wanadoo.es> mail-copies-to: never X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@eunet.no X-Trace: oslo-nntp.eunet.no 942502526 2965 193.71.66.49 (13 Nov 1999 14:15:26 GMT) Organization: Naggum Software; +47 8800 8879 or +1 510 435 8604; fax: +47 2210 9077; http://www.naggum.no NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 Nov 1999 14:15:26 GMT Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp * spamers@must.die (Fernando) | Yesterday I downloaded lispworks, and I think I'll go that way. I hope you're aware that Franz has offered free versions for longer than Harlequin, in particular for Linux. | You seem very touchy when it comes to Franz (among many other things). no, I'm touchy about all things I care about that are maligned unfairly, and I'm irritated at people who post with forged and silly addresses in general, which was the gist of my criticism, which at least appeared to have touched a raw nerve with you, an issue I think you dodge and take out on Franz, instead, again being unfair to me _and_ them. that you interpret me as being at least somewhat Franz-specific must be because you're being Franz-specifically unfairly maligning. we just had a discussion here where Harlequin were being cast as the "underdog", which I think is even more of an unfair characterization, and I went on at length about why this did not serve either them or the Lisp market. | It reminds me how the aggressive zealotery of some Amiga and OS/2 fans | helped Commodore and IBM to succesfully market their product. that you are reminded of this indicates a mindset that does not have "fairness" close to its top priorities... you're going out of your way to be even more unfair in your assessment of the situation, which sort of proves my point, too: it wouldn't be any fun having you as _my_ customer, which is all I want you to consider. but I couldn't even venture a guess that's the _exact_ reason you haven't heard from them, however. | But don't worry, nice people do understand that your charming personality | has nothing to do with Franz, and it won't hurt Allegro's sales. ;-) thank you for your kind words. ;) | Let me guess.... that sign in Franz's shop is Erik Naggum, right? no, entirely wrong guess. that sign is basically on the entire building and in several places near them; Berkeley is a nice place with lots of really weird people. for a visiting furriner like myself, stuff like this takes on a different proportion than it does for "natives". (I guess it might have been a little internal.) | Give me a break, will you? funny, that's basically what I'm telling you to give Franz Inc. #:Erik -- Attention Microsoft Shoppers! MS Monopoly Money 6.0 are now worthless.