Subject: Re: less parentheses --> fewer parentheses From: Erik Naggum <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: 2000/08/26 Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp Message-ID: <email@example.com> * Barry Margolin <firstname.lastname@example.org> | But it's still the case that you were criticizing someone for not | taking steps to improve their grammar No. I understand it's hard for you, but could you _please_ pay a little attention when you want to keep telling me what I do? I did not do what you malevolentely "interpret" me to have said, here. Do you understand the difference between criticizing some person A who has unfairly criticized some person B, and agreeing with person B or whatever his messages was? I don't think you grasp the concept of justice, Barry, or if you do, however unlikely, you have set out to apply injustice on purpose. In brief, justice means the ability to judge action without judging person. In this case, it is unfair to criticize someone for over-interpreting the "can't stand it" the way that German dude did, and I reserve the right to point that out, without some dumbfuck like yourself telling me I agree with the _over-interpretation_, of all things. You never have managed to make that distinction in dealing with me, and I doubt that you are so unintelligent that it isn't on purpose. You continue to act as if your transgressions are perfectly OK because you _feel_ justified by that hatred of yours. You continue to believe that false accusations can get you anything, too. You are amazingly willing to find positive, kind "interpretations" of everyone but me, and this has been evident for years. I fail to see what you gain in your sugar-coating whatever I criticize, except for a very good way of expressing your hatred. Joe Random USENET reader doesn't pay too much attention, so the lop-sided way you "interpret" and see what isn't there goes unnoticed, and as long as meny people think everything is OK if it's said with nice words, you can look like this saint, but the way you will always exaggerate what I do in the most negative direction possible and likewise exaggerate what whoever you consider my victims do in the most positive direction possible, is significant evidence of hatred at work. | That's not how I interpret such an argument. Of course it isn't. If you understood what people said that I have critized, you wouldn't have a case. | You read things too literally ... Really? As opposed to your "interpretations" all over the place? | IMHO, he was simply pointing out that he doesn't go around | criticizing the German of non-native German speakers, and he would | appreciate the same consideration of his handicap in English. Hello? Attention-deficit problems again? Listen carefully, Barry! The person who used "less" instead of "fewer" in the header WAS NOT German. Both the person who criticized and the person who used "less" were native speakers. Moreover, the criticism was clearly not of any _person_ (despite your predilection to think everything has to be about people), but of a _phenomenon_. So what has German to do with this at all? _NOTHING_ Nobody with a German "handicap" were corrected, Barry. The comparison to German handicaps was completely uncalled-for, irrelevant, and pointless. | You take this simple rhetorical remark, and turn it around to insult | his intelligence because he's not interested in hearing criticism of | his English from people who have no right to provide it. Wrong. This is so fucking _warped_! Only a severe psychosis could ever come up with something so far from observable reality. The record is there, Barry. Pay some attention to it if you want to criticize and blame people for any wrong-doing! It was _stupid_ to make the argument that was made, because it had no place whatsoever in relation to what did in fact transpire. If there were any intelligences insulted, it was _not_ because of the surface stupidity that you see, but because the argument is a false accusation, precisely of having attacked someone with a handicap, which did _not_ happen, but you don't see them as bad because they are not even wrong in your view of "justice". | Furthermore, I doubt it's really necesary, as I believe that other | long-time regulars in the group will support my subjective claim. Oh, Christ, appeal to popularity, too! How low can you sink? | You're obviously an intelligent person, Erik, but your frequent need | to belittle people suggests an emotional problem. I don't belittle people, OK? PAY ATTENTION IF YOU WANT TO CRITICIZE! It is not my problem that you can't distinguish action and person, but if you could at least make a mental note that you are wrong in your "interpretation" so we could avoid doing this thing every time you blow your hatchet because of something that isn't there, we could have some peaceful coexistence, at least. As long as you keep doing your insane stunt with "interpreting" things, is it to avoid that "take it literally" error?, and you get it so amazingly wrong, it _has_ to be corrected, and I do have a right to correct you when you false accuse or anyone else of wrongdoing, regardless of how many would "support" you in your false accusations. At worst, I'm belittle the _role_ people choose to act on the Net. They can choose another role. They can choose to act differently. If I were belittling people, my criticism wouldn't stop if they changed their actions. The fact is, I do. You, however, don't even _allow_ me to have other roles than your psychotic vision, but will attribute malice to me based on your one-dimensional interpretation of _me_. If people _feel_ belittled, that's no surprise, however -- I usually flame those who don't want to pay attention, be careful, or think, and if you don't want to think, you probably don't introspect enough to realize what's being criticzed, either. Take you, for instance. Yet, suppose for the sake of argument tha there is an emotional problem: Why do you go out of your way to beat and harrass someone who has a handicap that you _recognize_? Of course, some random German with a handicap shouldn't be criticized for his English mistakes, but it's perfectly OK for you to harrass someone with an emotional problem? If anything, this would make you even _more_ evil, Barry. Good going! I don't think a person can learn to pay attention if he doesn't, unless it is extremely painful not to do it, which would cause most people to rethink their situation. Of course, the morons would automatically conclude that they do _nothing_ wrong whatsoever, and of coruse they can't even figure out what's going on, so they begin to hurl _personal_ accusations, and that's when the flames begin. You're one of the worst to confuse person with action, Barry, and you have not figured it out in a number of years. What would it _take_ for you to understand that confusing action with person is wrong? I don't think you could change that aspect of you, so I just want you to stop doing what falls natural to you, that is, stop making false accusations based in your "misunderstandings" and your unique "interpretations", even though that's how you are. #:Erik -- If this is not what you expected, please alter your expectations.