From ... From: Erik Naggum Subject: Re: Allegro CL 6.0 Trial Edition Date: 2000/11/04 Message-ID: <3182336965682420@naggum.net>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 689613345 References: <39fac869_1@goliath.newsfeeds.com> <8the57$6i$1@bob.news.rcn.net> <39fc7544_5@goliath.newsfeeds.com> <3181874056716443@naggum.net> <3a005596_4@goliath.newsfeeds.com> <3182090954163806@naggum.net> <87hf5r185g.fsf@qiwi.uncommon-sense.net> <3182120022325904@naggum.net> <3A021836.4B3CDB05@fisec.com> <3182204923429847@naggum.net> <3A038228.710E0A2D@fisec.com> mail-copies-to: never Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@eunet.no X-Trace: oslo-nntp.eunet.no 973350972 21140 195.0.192.66 (4 Nov 2000 15:16:12 GMT) Organization: Naggum Software; vox: +47 800 35477; gsm: +47 93 256 360; fax: +47 93 270 868; http://naggum.no; http://naggum.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.0803 (Gnus v5.8.3) Emacs/20.7 Mime-Version: 1.0 NNTP-Posting-Date: 4 Nov 2000 15:16:12 GMT Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp * Robert Monfera | Let me assure you that your thoughts are modular enough to enable | information _transmittal_ even with-scan-reading-enabled. Human | readers don't do information _preservation_, Usenet does. I was operating under the assumption that what is good for high information value is not good for fast scan reading and vice versa. There are lots of things we can do to the information to make it easier to digest by people, but which makes it much, much harder for machines to retrieve same. As witness the drive towards graphics and layout that makes it nigh impossible for a machine to figure out what is being communicated on "modern" web pages. Most of the stuff that is done to preserve accuracy in presentation lowers the speed of access by humans. This has to do with how our consciousness works, which has had some, but not an impressing lot, to do with how we designed our computers, writing systems, etc, mainly because we know so little about it. | Speaking of discouraging scan reading, I recall how much fun it is | to navigate through an automated telephone answering service when | what you want is always the last option at the deepest level. That | option must be the most expensive, and access is thus penalized. The speed at which we absorb information from the outside world is incredibly low, it could use a thousand-fold increase, but if you have an issue with linearization of presentation and representation of information, it is just silly to argue for _or_ against initial capitals, automated telephones, etc. If you really think this is an important issue, and I think it is, transcending linearization may be accomplished with more computer-friendly ways to communicate, in that the computer can scan for us and present us with a condensation of the communication, into which we can navigate once the computer understands what is going on. Ironically, this requires that we dispense with the notion that consuption by the human eye is the one true factor to optimize for, and it becomes an argument _against_ the many information-destroying aspects that the human need to make it easier to read has spawned. Do we really need to use the _specific_ technique of abusing the capital letter to indicate sentence start when we already use it to indicate proper nams? You may have noticed that I use two spaces after a sentence-terminating punctuation, and that I don't use a period after abbreviations. (I know one guy who was so upset about the capitals that he dragged in whitespace and punctuation and who _should_ have noticed this, but didn't.) There are other ways to make that sentence start stand out than the initial capital letter that does not introduce information loss and useless ambiguity. #:Erik -- Does anyone remember where I parked Air Force One? -- George W. Bush