From ... From: Erik Naggum Subject: Re: What case problem is Franz trying to solve? Date: 2000/11/10 Message-ID: <3182882219798792@naggum.net>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 692183807 References: mail-copies-to: never Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@eunet.no X-Trace: oslo-nntp.eunet.no 973893456 14791 195.0.192.66 (10 Nov 2000 21:57:36 GMT) Organization: Naggum Software; vox: +47 800 35477; gsm: +47 93 256 360; fax: +47 93 270 868; http://naggum.no; http://naggum.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.0803 (Gnus v5.8.3) Emacs/20.7 Mime-Version: 1.0 NNTP-Posting-Date: 10 Nov 2000 21:57:36 GMT Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp * Barry Margolin | But it's unlikely that much code is currently written this way, so it | would have to be found and fixed. I suspect there's also code out | there that reads user input using things like READ-LINE, and then | calls STRING-UPCASE before calling INTERN or FIND-SYMBOL, to ensure | that it will find the right symbol. The obvious solution to this problem is _not_ to make an irreversible global change, but to retain upper-case access to symbols even while you have lower-case access to them. Franz Inc's solution is wrong, and causes lots or problems in transitioning between upper-case and lower-case "modes". Such global mode switches are generally not the best kind of solution, anyway. I truly wonder why they didn't look further when it has so many obvious drawbacks, apart from breaking code that relies on the old upper-case behavior, which is considered something that _shouldn't_ work by some Franz people. I can't believe the argument that any such code is so easy to change there's no cost to it. How do you know you've caught them all? How is that easier to prove than not to break the thing in the first place while allowing people the choice? And he's never seen find-symbol! That is _not_ comforting. The sheer arrogance here is too much, just too much. #:Erik -- ALGORITHM: a procedure for solving a mathematical problem in a finite number of steps that frequently involves repetition of an operation. ALGOREISM: a procedure for solving an electoral problem in a finite number of steps that frequently involves repetition of an operation.