From ... From: Erik Naggum Subject: Re: What Lisp needs to beat Java, etc. Date: 2000/11/30 Message-ID: <3184577060413363@naggum.net>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 699505368 References: <3184181620609081@naggum.net> <3184225976178683@naggum.net> <3184273110399884@naggum.net> <3184410282846018@naggum.net> <900nor$af$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <3184438297633725@naggum.net> <901p7c$tka$1@nnrp1.deja.com> mail-copies-to: never Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@eunet.no X-Trace: oslo-nntp.eunet.no 975590222 25776 195.0.192.66 (30 Nov 2000 13:17:02 GMT) Organization: Naggum Software; vox: +47 800 35477; gsm: +47 93 256 360; fax: +47 93 270 868; http://naggum.no; http://naggum.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.0803 (Gnus v5.8.3) Emacs/20.7 Mime-Version: 1.0 NNTP-Posting-Date: 30 Nov 2000 13:17:02 GMT Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp * Tim Bradshaw | In this context -- at least in my dialect which is not the same as | Kent's as we're on opposite sides of the Atlantic -- this use of | `honest' doesn't have an implication of lying (actually your quote of | what he said is not so good, some of the surrounding words matter | somehow). And not the least the order of evaluation. "If they were honest, a lot of them would ..." does not imply that the first "they" refers to everybody out of which a lot would, etc, but rather that the second "them" refers to everbody, a lot of _whom_, if they were honest (with themselves), would, etc. This is sort of like getting SELECT clauses right in SQL queries. #:Erik -- Solution to U.S. Presidential Election Crisis 2000: Let Texas secede from the Union and elect George W. Bush their very first President. All parties, states would rejoice.