From ... Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!134.222.94.5!npeer.kpnqwest.net!nreader1.kpnqwest.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp Subject: Re: Promoting CL Was: What I want from my Common Lisp vendor and the Common Lisp community References: <3208226254834485@naggum.net> <867kvke4iz.fsf@gondolin.local.net> <3208254606019619@naggum.net> <1f4c5c5c.0108311044.2399e124@posting.google.com> <1f4c5c5c.0108312034.1b1e140a@posting.google.com> <1f4c5c5c.0109011022.72a56a2b@posting.google.com> <1f4c5c5c.0109012324.43d24c7@posting.google.com> <3208404998010473@naggum.net> <87itf1a2fh.fsf_-_@piracy.red-bean.com> <99fb3972.0109021504.bba92d0@posting.google.com> <3208475381413624@naggum.net> <3208495354884218@naggum.net> Mail-Copies-To: never From: Erik Naggum Message-ID: <3208515900839780@naggum.net> Organization: Naggum Software, Oslo, Norway Lines: 47 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 14:25:02 GMT X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@Norway.EU.net X-Trace: nreader1.kpnqwest.net 999527102 193.71.66.49 (Mon, 03 Sep 2001 16:25:02 MET DST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 16:25:02 MET DST Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.lisp:15472 * John Foderaro > He couldn't find a single one. Failure to do your bidding does not constitute admitting to whatever you want to invent about people. Disrespect for people smart enough to see through your charades runs deep in your personality, does it not? You think are so much smarter than those you are trying to fool that you actually think you can get away with this crap, right? Such arrogance simply amazes me. > Eric has repeatedly shown that he will make up things and misrepresent > people if it serves his ultimate purpose. I thought you would appreciate that, considering your own track record. Why is it wrong for me, but not wrong for you? Several people here have arrested you for misrepresenting me. None other than you sorry self have accused me of mispresenting you. Maybe you should grow a clue from this? > Thus I ask that Eric from now on always include references to any fact he > states. If you see him state a fact that you don't know on your own is > true, assume it's a lie. An no more paraphrasing of what someone said! > Include their actual words from some posting or publication or don't > speak for them at all. I am not sure what would constitute sufficiency in doing your bidding. Would you please explain how you arrived at "He couldn't find a single one" so I can see what kind of proof you require? I would also like to see you find the actual references for the following statement: > Your insistence that people knowledgeable about Common Lisp pretend that > the langauge has no flaws means you want us to appear to be stupid or > liars. I think I need to understand what your rather peculiar requirements are, because it sure looks like you demand from others what you cannot and have not been willing to do yourself. Why is this ethical of you? Why does this ridiculous hypocritical stance of yours make you a person that somebody should believe in any respect at all? Have you not demonstrated that _you_ are a liar much more than you have demonstrated that I am? According to your _own_ standards, we should assume that everything you have said about me is a lie. I think that is frighteningly accurate of you, but still it amazes me that you fail to understand the criticism you must have read here about _your_ misrepresenting me. Oh, you probably need references to be able to deal with facts. Dream on, hypocrite. ///