Subject: Re: flame wars, humor and serious request /was Re: Effective approaches
From: Erik Naggum <>
Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 18:27:46 GMT
Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp
Message-ID: <>

* John Foderaro <>
> The response you quoted was not a response to you but to Coby Beck.


> So I echo what Roger Corman said.

  Of course you.  You are just the kind of person to _support_ that kind of
  disrespectful behavior.

> Let's keep things friendly here and we'll get real information across and
> look a lot more professional to people just checking in to see what Lisp
> is all about.

  Just start, John!  Just start.  Do not pretend that you have to wait for
  anyone.  Just _show_ us what it is like when you behave reasonably mature
  and stick to technical issues.  No more insulting, arrogant bullshit
  about others, OK?  Why do you keep doing it when you lambast me for doing
  it?  I find that part of your behavior _really_ disgusting, and yes, it
  says something about your _person_ when you choose to pretend that you
  above your own criticism.  If you cannot start here, start by cleaning up
  your insulting language in the "lisp coding standards" page.  Show us
  that this is not a religious nutcase at work and clean up your code, too,
  to show that you have actually _listened_ to those who have expressed
  similar views to mine.  This all requires you to _back_down_, and I have
  a hunch that your refusal to do what people tell you to do and instead
  prefer to tell people what to do over just doing what you (say you) want
  yourself is that you _cannot_ back down: You would not be you if you
  could back down.  That is why you keep telling people to be friendly when
  very clearly, you are actually criticizing people and trying to leave
  them defenseless.  You have done that so many times that your sincerity
  is in serious jeopardy because of it.  So just _do_, no more _talk_, OK?