From ... Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!npeer.kpnqwest.net!reader3.kpnqwest.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp Subject: Re: the "loop" macro References: <3B88815A.B5D98835@rcn.com> <1ylj84y8.fsf@itasoftware.com> <9nan7q$cg1$1@news.gte.com> Mail-Copies-To: never From: Erik Naggum Message-ID: <3208869236309135@naggum.net> Organization: Naggum Software, Oslo, Norway Lines: 20 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 16:33:56 GMT X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@Norway.EU.net X-Trace: reader3.kpnqwest.net 999880436 193.90.206.135 (Fri, 07 Sep 2001 18:33:56 MET DST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 18:33:56 MET DST Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.lisp:15866 * ds26@goldshoe.gte.com (Dorai Sitaram) > Mr Foderaro: Caution be damned -- please bring the original prose back! I think it is actually a good thing to have the original insulting shit removed. However, I am no fan of "nice" for the sake of "nice". (Who would have guessed?) Instead of just being "nice", it would have been useful if the _arguments_ behind the religious fervor the last time could come out in actual words that other people could relate to. I have no desire to see another insulting piece of shit that arrogantly assumes that the author is so much in his right that he need not even argue, but when the arguments are gone in the name of "nice", the result is that (1) we know he had no arguments, and (2) he still cannot be argued against. So while it is an _improvement_ and it should have been announced and had a new version, it has become just as _irrelevant_ as it would have been if it had not contained the insults in the first version, apart from the completely unchanged image problem that Franz Inc. still have when they continue to publish code with this cretinous "innovation". ///