From ... Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!news2.kpn.net!news.kpn.net!nslave.kpnqwest.net!nloc.kpnqwest.net!nmaster.kpnqwest.net!nreader3.kpnqwest.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp Subject: Re: 3 Lisps, 3 Ways of Specifying OS References: <18e1cdb3.0110152113.1cb2e998@posting.google.com> <87pu7noko1.fsf@balder.seapine.com> <1003258541.299281@itn> Mail-Copies-To: never From: Erik Naggum Message-ID: <3212256231076820@naggum.net> Organization: Naggum Software, Oslo, Norway Lines: 23 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 21:23:53 GMT X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@Norway.EU.net X-Trace: nreader3.kpnqwest.net 1003267433 193.71.66.49 (Tue, 16 Oct 2001 23:23:53 MET DST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 23:23:53 MET DST Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.lisp:17941 * John Foderaro | The built-in lag that results in getting updates through a distribution | company like RedHat means that its users would never see kernel 2.4.11. Debian's very responsible package maintainers have kept buggy kernel versions and buggy versions of packages alike from hitting their users consistently for years, quite _unlike_ RedHat. For the same reason, the 2.4.11 kernel was not packaged up for Debian users even in the "testing" distribution. Those who want to track the kernel development know what the are doing. I would think everyone else _avoids_ upgrading their kernels until some trusted source says it is OK. My trusted source is the Debian project. And I do not trust RedHat at all -- doing so has cost me too much real money and real time in the past. But we also know that _trust_ means very different things to different people. If you want release lags, nothing beats Debian there, either. :) /// -- The United Nations before and after the leadership of Kofi Annan are two very different organizations. The "before" United Nations did not deserve much credit and certainly not a Nobel peace prize. The "after" United Nations equally certainly does. I applaud the Nobel committee's choice.