Subject: Re: Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Encyclopedia
From: Erik Naggum <>
Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 17:40:24 GMT
Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp
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* Kenny Tilton <>
| In other words, the fundamental misconceptualization which must underly a
| hard-to-learn language will also be manifested in one's ability to live
| with it even if mastered.

  Hm.  Can the ideas behind C++ be re-expressed sanely?  There should be a
  lot of really good ideas and good material in that language, but I tend
  to believe that the sheer pain of expressing oneself in it creates a
  "creative climate" that produces really weird results.  It is very much
  like the SGML/XML crowd, who also do amazingly stupid things because of
  the sheer painfulness of working with their misconceptualization of their
  core problems and solutions.

  Norway is now run by a priest from the fundamentalist Christian People's
  Party, the fifth largest party representing one eighth of the electorate.
  Carrying a Swiss Army pocket knife in Oslo, Norway, is a criminal offense.