Subject: Re: I'm outta here...
From: Erik Naggum <>
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:14:17 GMT
Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp
Message-ID: <>

* Erann Gat
| This is simply not true.  The C++ community has vastly more dissent about
| its standard than the Common Lisp community.  To cite but one example,
| look at the C++ FAQ some time.  There's a whole litany of features (which
| are all part of the standard) that are labelled "EVIL".

  Are the _features_ marked evil or their _syntax_?  Are they _fundamental_
  to the language as seen by programmers?  Can introductory textbooks on
  C++ still be used to learn the language they see used in open source code?

| So the suggestion that John is going to do irrepairable harm to the Lisp
| community by making a disparaging remark about LOOP is not supported by
| the evidence.

  It is not just about loop.  However, I am not surprised that you say it
  is, because you would have had to supoort my point of view if you had
  focused on if*.  So I simply take this intentional misleading comment to
  mean that you support me on the if* issue.  Thank you.

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