Subject: Re: Char ordering.
From: Erik Naggum <>
Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2002 19:33:26 GMT
Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp
Message-ID: <>

* Jacek Generowicz <>
| I don't find anything harsh in these.

  Not in words, but in contents.  Some people do not find harshness unless
  the language is harsh.  I ignore form and go for contents.  What some
  people say is really destructive if you care to understand it, but they
  can be oh so polite in how they express it.  I consider polite people who
  are also destructive to be one of the worst scourges of the earth,
  because the more polite, the more deliberate the destructiveness.

| Maybe I am more thick-skinned than you.

  Maybe you think much less about what people actually say and do.

| By virtue of having hit the wrong key, I accidentally replied to your
| article, rather than following up, as I had intended. I realized my
| mistake, and sent you an apology explaining this, four minutes an
| twenty-four seconds later.

  It _arrived_ 8 hours and 47 minutes later.

| Given that over six-and-a-half hours have elapsed between my apology and
| your reply, I am somewhat surprised to receive these comments. However, I
| apologize once more, for having accidentally mailed you the message.

  I think you should be pretty damn careful about making a point out of
  other people's mistakes when you make so goddamn many of them yourself.
  If you want to learn, you do not find human fallibility "ironic", you
  learn how to cope with it.  People who defend themselves when criticized
  also have a problem with human fallibility.  And people who turn personal
  when they are criticized should stay out of public fora.  I think you do
  that.  Please try to focus on what you could gain out of your discussions
  and much less on how you can fun on other people's expense.

  In a fight against something, the fight has value, victory has none.
  In a fight for something, the fight is a loss, victory merely relief.