Subject: Re: Packages
From: Erik Naggum <>
Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 12:21:13 GMT
Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp
Message-ID: <>

* Erann Gat
| That's true.  I am horribly confused.  Whether that's my fault or the
| fault of the people trying to explain things to me is unclear.

  It is your fault.  Confusion can never be blamed on anyone else.  If you
  think it can, you are horribly confused.

* Erik Naggum
> Such are the results of incompetence at work.

* Erann Gat
| One could respond the same way to every frustration anyone has ever had
| with any programming language.

  Well, there is a crucial distinction between incompetence at the designer
  end of the language and incomptence at the user end of the language.  You
  seem to conclude thet there can be incompetence only at one end, despite
  your deriding Common Lisp "flaws".  I wonder how you reconcile this with
  yourself,  but you probably do not bother.

  In a fight against something, the fight has value, victory has none.
  In a fight for something, the fight is a loss, victory merely relief.