Subject: Re: Questions about Symbolics lisp machines
From: Erik Naggum <>
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 03:27:26 GMT
Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp
Message-ID: <>

* Bulent Murtezaoglu
| I don't understand why you would be disgusted.

  Perhaps I explained only enough for me to understand what I was talking
  about.  I had asked company x for funding for my FTP site, which took
  time and money to maintain on my part, and I had grown tired of doing
  this for free when several commercial interests were asking me to make
  their stuff available.  None of them valued my central site higher than
  doing their own thing, apparently, and that is certainly their choice,
  but my reaction was a marked reduction in my willingness to spend more
  time, energy, or money on this.  So when one company that had declined to
  provide funding asked me not only to continue to keep my site up to date
  with their software, but also to work for free to provide them with logs
  and retrieval statistics, which I had hitherto not done for anyone, not
  even for my own use, what disgusted me was not that the users left their
  e-mail addresses with me in good faith and I was asked to surrender them,
  it was that this company wanted me to do such work for them for free
  after they had declined to fund the site.

  In a fight against something, the fight has value, victory has none.
  In a fight for something, the fight is a loss, victory merely relief.