From ... Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!ossa.telenet-ops.be!nmaster.kpnqwest.net!nreader2.kpnqwest.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp Subject: Re: Kent, why do you use free software References: <3C9A12FC.8EC6D8CA@smi.de> <87u1r3hzkh.fsf_-_@becket.becket.net> <87pu1rhypm.fsf@becket.becket.net> <3226184746308651@naggum.net> <87zo0ubupg.fsf@becket.becket.net> <877knyblrk.fsf@becket.becket.net> <63637457.0203270542.1628e4a3@posting.google.com> <87ofh6ug8d.fsf@kursk.kassube.de> <3226535078056817@naggum.net> <87it7d2r6b.fsf@becket.becket.net> <3226553015621896@naggum.net> <87k7rs2ai3.fsf@becket.becket.net> Mail-Copies-To: never From: Erik Naggum Message-ID: <3226648987285585@naggum.net> Organization: Naggum Software, Oslo, Norway Lines: 21 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 11:22:51 GMT X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@KPNQwest.no X-Trace: nreader2.kpnqwest.net 1017660171 193.71.199.50 (Mon, 01 Apr 2002 13:22:51 MET DST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 13:22:51 MET DST Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.lisp:30680 * Thomas Bushnell, BSG | No, certainly copyleft works together with other forces. It's not | sufficient by itself. By "automatic" I meant that the other forces are | (usually) sort of omnipresent and not very remarkable in themselves. It appears to me that the whole Free Software thing is about making the whole world of programmers employees of one giant company. Because, and this probably does not make sense to you with your prefrences and your background, a company or group of companies who work together, offer the same kind of mutual access and rights that copyleft does for people who have no obligiation whatsoever to return anything of value for that right. I consider it much more valuable to grant access in exchange for something, not just give it away to any stray comer. I believe that the exchange of values in return increases when the access is something you get because of some trust in your ability to contribute to it. To trust everyone to be able to do this is to trust no one. /// -- In a fight against something, the fight has value, victory has none. In a fight for something, the fight is a loss, victory merely relief.