Subject: Re: Why is Scheme not a Lisp?
From: Erik Naggum <>
Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 06:36:30 GMT
Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp
Message-ID: <>

| I've tried to be balanced in the posts I've made. I apologize if you don't 
| think it's sufficient.

  I think you blame me for Thomas Bushnell's behavior, and question only my
  role, not his.  This is not particularly smart.

| Agreed.  Despite my differing opinion, I _have_ tried to understand more
| of the context in which it was said.  To make that context easily
| available from my own posts, I've posted links to Google so that others
| reading them might read them to make their own judgement.

  Google is not news.  Despite the usefulness of this tool, a Google search
  tells me that somebody generally fails to understand that news is dynamic
  -- it is interaction -- things on USENET are generally only _responses_.

| As far as my own understanding of context and Usenet, maybe it's my lack 
| of understanding of your use of language. It's trivially easy to find 
| posts on google in which you write of ripping people's throats [1, 2] 
| out, people that need to be committed or are fit to die.

  But what have I responded to?  How much abuse should _I_ take?  Why do
  you blame the victim?  Why am I _not_ the victim of the abuse of Thomas
  Bushnell?  This is your lack of balance, and it colors your entire
  approach to your reasoning.

| I did _not_ say that I _would_ respond in that manner.  I just said it
| would be my gut instinct.  I'd like to think I'd catch it before it
| escaped. :-)

  Look, perhaps you are wrong?  Perhaps I am the one who _responds_ to
  abuse from morons who cannot take criticism professionally?  Just go back
  and look at things with that _possible_ perspective.  Perhaps what we
  have here is a general consensus that it is OK to respond with rabidly
  insane hostilities towards _me_ if I point out a technical mistake
  someone has made, and that somebody has the intelligence and prejudicial
  disposition of a racist, and therefore believes he is mistreated because
  of said consensus instead of reading the actual article?  Perhaps evil
  morons like Thomas Bushnell are _only_ after making me a villain so he
  can escape judgment of his character, which I have exposed?

  Also, let me know what you think about such phenomena as S Campion/ Adam
  Tissa/Israel Ray Thomas.  What do you think makes these lunatics tick?

| At any rate, I appreciate your responses to my posts.  If I'm going to
| avoid becoming any more hypocritical than I already am, I should probably
| stop my contributions to this thread.

  I fail to see the hypocrisy.

  In a fight against something, the fight has value, victory has none.
  In a fight for something, the fight is a loss, victory merely relief.