From ... Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!193.174.75.178!news-fra1.dfn.de!newsfeed.hanau.net!newsfeed.vmunix.org!newsfeed.stueberl.de!news.netway.at!nmaster.kpnqwest.net!nnum.kpnqwest.net!EU.net!nreader1.kpnqwest.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp Subject: Re: Testing for function equality References: <3231999785093305@naggum.net> Mail-Copies-To: never From: Erik Naggum Message-ID: <3232045833521876@naggum.net> Organization: Naggum Software, Oslo, Norway Lines: 67 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 22:30:48 GMT X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@KPNQwest.no X-Trace: nreader1.kpnqwest.net 1023057048 193.71.199.50 (Mon, 03 Jun 2002 00:30:48 MET DST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 00:30:48 MET DST Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.lisp:34344 * "Matthew X. Economou" | Using READ-DELIMITED-LIST won't accomplish this. Sigh. Yes, it will. (I really wonder why you ask for help when you reject the offers you get. What is _wrong_ with people who ask for help in such a manner that only the single, specific question they ask may be answered? If you got stuck, do you think it is because you made all your other choices as wisely and informedly as possible? Of course not! You are stuck _now_ because you made a critical error a _long_ time ago. The ability to make yourself aware of the choices you have made is crucial to learn from experience. Lack of such ability is goddamn annoying to those who watch you fumble and stumble through a wilderness of non-solutions instead of going straight for the right answer when given a hint.) | Instead, I must modify the reader. You only think you must. Please listen. | The Common Lisp specification states that one cannot meaningfully copy | the reader macro function of #\( because it is hard coded to look for #\) | to terminate the list. Yes, it calls read-delimited-list with #\). This is _really_ obvious. | I would like to write a version of the left parenthesis reader macro | function that can be meaningfully copied, provided one copies the reader | macro function for #\) as well. This is the wrong approach. How do you know which terminating delimiter you want to associate yourself with? How do you communicate this? Why are you so dead set against communicating it directly to the function that reads the delimited list? | Using these functions in place of the standard reader macro functions | allows one to meaningfully copy the syntax of #\( to a new list-opening | character, provided one also copies the syntax of #\) to a corresponding | new list-closing character. If you want to arrive at a solution, rather than your own preconceived solution, which you are now trying to force to work, it is no harder than to make a function that accepts two arguments, the delimiting characters, and sets up the reader for the former macro character to be a function that calls read-delimited-list with the latter character as terminator, and then copies #\) to the latter so a stray terminator will signal an error. I posted code only yesterday that used <> and () for lists. Do you think I mucked around with writing my own read-delimited-list to get this effect? No. It is simple and straightforward with read-delimited list. | I want a straight answer to the question: Can EQ test two functions for | equality in conforming code code? The specification pages for EQ and | family don't say. The above code depends on the answer being "Yes." You _want_ a straight answer? Really? Are you sure you understand how a voluntary forum works? Why are you so inconsiderate? How hard can it be to treat people who have expressed a desire to _help_ you nicely? Geez, the clueless newbies here are getting more arrogant by the minute. You can do the work to figure out the "straight answer" yourself. The answer is right there in front of your pertinacious obstinateness. -- In a fight against something, the fight has value, victory has none. In a fight for something, the fight is a loss, victory merely relief. 70 percent of American adults do not understand the scientific process.