From ... Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!cyclone.bc.net!news-hub.siol.net!newsfeed.Austria.EU.net!newsfeed.kpnqwest.at!newsmaster-01.atnet.at!atnet.at!news.netway.at!nmaster.kpnqwest.net!nnum.kpnqwest.net!EU.net!nreader1.kpnqwest.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp Subject: Re: contra graham References: <87adq7vejn.fsf@lackawana.kippona.com> <3232701667570024@naggum.net> <3232750525900282@naggum.net> Mail-Copies-To: never From: Erik Naggum Message-ID: <3232830041176351@naggum.net> Organization: Naggum Software, Oslo, Norway Lines: 19 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 00:21:03 GMT X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@KPNQwest.no X-Trace: nreader1.kpnqwest.net 1023841263 193.71.199.50 (Wed, 12 Jun 2002 02:21:03 MET DST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 02:21:03 MET DST Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.lisp:34741 * Gordon Joly | I did not attack the person. Stop lying, too. This is what you said: I would submit that that terms such a "nonsense" and phrases like "ignorant fucks who plaster their prejudice..." and "crappy reasoning" are not the hallmarks of a measured debate. These types of remarks usually demonstrate sloppy thought and hasty delivery. This is a classic ad hominem argument. If you are so concerned about "measured debate" as you seem to be, when you are not conducting it yourself, you need to find a reasonably good book on argumentation and look up what ad hominem means if you do not recognize your own as such. -- In a fight against something, the fight has value, victory has none. In a fight for something, the fight is a loss, victory merely relief. 70 percent of American adults do not understand the scientific process.