Subject: Re: PART TWO: winning industrial-use of lisp:  Re: Norvig's latest  paper  on Lisp
From: Erik Naggum <>
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 15:59:55 GMT
Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp
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* Andreas Hinze <>
| It's hard to imagine that anyone outside the common lisp comunity is reading
| that articles.

  Well, maybe for you, but most other people who get a consultant who suggests
  Common Lisp does web search for it or ask around.

  Matt Curtin pointed out something interesting (I'll reply separately), that
  most other language users, especially C++, just do not understand the point
  of discussing the language.  It is just _there_.  Criticizing it is not seen
  as conducive to using it competently.  When they come across Common Lisp,
  they see all this criticism and people not getting over some of the language
  design decisions.  What are they to think save that it is utterly deficient?

| But if they do then some of them start to think over it, maybe.  No, the
| point is more that there is much noise about the mainstream languages and
| nothing about lisp.  So lisp becomes an exotic, special purpose language.

  There are literally thousands of exotic, special purposes languages that are
  considered cool and useful.  Point dismissed.

| Because none pay you for this.

  Oh, christ.  Grow up.
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