Subject: Re: PART ONE: Lisp & Education: Re: Norvig's latest paper on Lisp
From: Erik Naggum <>
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 18:21:08 GMT
Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp
Message-ID: <>

* James A. Crippen
| I thought about getting the official ANSI spec, and bought it in electronic
| form (which of course gives you every right to print it, so I wouldn't feel
| bad).  It turned out to be the shittiest 150 dpi scan I'd seen, even worse
| than the old MIT AI Lab memos, and even worse than what the USPTO puts out
| for old patents.  A waste of my money.

  Indeed.  A rip-off.  Especially since they have the postscript files.

| The other option is to update the TeX sources to the draft version of the
| ANSI spec and put it out.  But I'm not sure about the copyright on it...
| Whether redistributing a modified form would be legal...

  As far as I can tell, the standard was printed from them.

| The only complaint people really have about the LOOP macro is that even
| though what you had was as ugly as sin in Java, what you end up with in Lisp
| is *still* ugly.

  And I would _really_ like to see fewer aesthetic judgments sold as facts.
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