From ... Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!129.240.148.23!uio.no!nntp.uio.no!ifi.uio.no!not-for-mail From: Erik Naggum Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp Subject: Re: Understanding Erik Naggum Date: 05 Oct 2002 12:47:01 +0000 Organization: Naggum Software, Oslo, Norway Lines: 72 Message-ID: <3242810821019218@naggum.no> References: <3242327596066444@naggum.no> <3242398120239149@naggum.no> <3242408304912864@naggum.no> <3242496349746363@naggum.no> <3242504571185148@naggum.no> <3242626461960586@naggum.no> <3242668044420400@naggum.no> <3242721196423218@naggum.no> <3242727494743775@naggum.no> <3242733255574704@naggum.no> <3242750310920971_-_@naggum.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: maud.ifi.uio.no 1033822022 17176 129.240.65.5 (5 Oct 2002 12:47:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@ifi.uio.no NNTP-Posting-Date: 5 Oct 2002 12:47:02 GMT Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.lisp:43103 * Pascal Costanza | In fact there is considerable evidence that this way of criticizing people | is much more effective. You talk about something entirely different. People who commit crimes and cause people real loss, are /not/ met with with what you suggest. I am somewhat surprised that you think this is the same thing. Have you read any of these fights at all? Have you actually /read/ the article I write that causes the morons to attack me? Or do you not remember it because it was precisely what people here favor? The fact of the matter is, some people here continue to fight me regardless of what I do. I am always blamed when someone feels bad, regardless of whether it is reasonable or not. Take a close look at these two articles and /try/ to reach a conclusion that does not depend on prejudice: in which Jeremy H. Brown fueled the current feud with this moronic comment: "PS Is Erik Naggum always so full of poisonous bile?" which he apparently thought was an OK thing to "ask" in this forum because of the shitheads that hang around here and talk about me all the time. <3242217481874669@naggum.no> in which I respond to his "religious" argument among others. That is what he rates as "poisonous bile" because the other article I wrote to him, elicited no such response. <3242172686385318@naggum.no> is a simple response to a silly question like "Where's the harm?" Now tell me, where did this guy get the idea that I was full of poisonous bile? What I had I /done/ to him? How rational and reasonable was his response to what I had written? Am I the only person on this planet who considers the /irrationality/ of people who have nothing whatsoever to offer but hate messages directed at me? I ask you people, and especially the bastards whose sense of justice is so warped they /encourage/ Erann Gat, had this person been able to think I was full of poisonous bile based on his /own/ observations, or did he need community approval of his hatred before he could lower himself to such a depth that he could ask that "question"? In light of his brief experience with the forum, I should say it was an innocent question asked because others had already validated it with their constant harrassment of me. I DO NOT ATTACK PEOPLE FOR NO REASON! I do not attack people at all, in fact. What had I /done/ to Jeremy H. Brown to deserve his response? What had I /done/ to Erann Gat, Ray Blaak, and Raffael Cavallero, our resident evil, this time to warrant their hateful, destructive messages? | I also have to admit that I don't know a lot about the "history" of the | arguments in c.l.l. So maybe my point is not so relevant in this | context. (Sorry in advance if that's the case.) Our resident evil bastards attack me for their own hurt feelings in feuds past, not because of anything I do. Read what I write, for God's sake, and you will see that I am /not/ attacking those who do not badmouth me first. If they do not like how I try to help and correct them, tell me, but do they /have/ to engage in all-out hate campaigns against me? And to think that some people are so /indecent/ as to encourage Erann Gat. /That/ will truly take me some time to get over. Presuming that shithead is not lying, of course. -- Erik Naggum, Oslo, Norway Act from reason, and failure makes you rethink and study harder. Act from faith, and failure makes you blame someone and push harder.