From ... Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!uio.no!nntp.uio.no!ifi.uio.no!not-for-mail From: Erik Naggum Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp Subject: Re: Error: The function DEFCLASS is undefined Date: 06 Oct 2002 02:09:03 +0000 Organization: Naggum Software, Oslo, Norway Lines: 26 Message-ID: <3242858943605340@naggum.no> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: maud.ifi.uio.no 1033870143 20457 129.240.65.5 (6 Oct 2002 02:09:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@ifi.uio.no NNTP-Posting-Date: 6 Oct 2002 02:09:03 GMT Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.lisp:43167 * Christopher C. Stacy | LOOP was brought into Common Lisp from MACLISP, and I am sure | there must be a LOOP library implementation that can be optionally | loaded into GCL. LOOP hadn't made it into the Common Lisp standard, | but it certainly existed in all its full-blown glory. The interesting thing about GCL is its history. It dates back to Kyoto Common Lisp (KCL), which was the first implementation of Common Lisp that did not have access to the rich oral tradition of the Lisp community, only the specification. This led to numerous interesting differences from the expecations of those who did have access to the oral tradition, and let to a much better specification the second time around with many cleanup issues going back to the Kyoto implementation. The sad thing is that this compiler never tracked the developments of the language and was by and large abandoned. W. Schelter at the University of Austin picked it up and made several enhancements to it and made it known as the Austin Kyoto Common Lisp (AKCL), but as far as I know, he has left Common Lisp and this world behind, and it was unsupported for several years before it was resurrected by the FSF as GNU Common Lisp in preference to CMUCL for political reasons. -- Erik Naggum, Oslo, Norway Act from reason, and failure makes you rethink and study harder. Act from faith, and failure makes you blame someone and push harder.