From ... Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeed1.bredband.com!bredband!uio.no!nntp.uio.no!ifi.uio.no!not-for-mail From: Erik Naggum Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp Subject: Re: Understanding Erik Naggum Date: 06 Oct 2002 16:17:05 +0000 Organization: Naggum Software, Oslo, Norway Lines: 33 Message-ID: <3242909825011560@naggum.no> References: <3242504571185148@naggum.no> <3242668044420400@naggum.no> <3242721196423218@naggum.no> <3242727494743775@naggum.no> <3242733255574704@naggum.no> <3242750310920971_-_@naggum.no> <3242810821019218@naggum.no> <3D9F0775.4080407@nyc.rr.com> <3242904119701995@naggum.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: maud.ifi.uio.no 1033921025 22946 129.240.65.5 (6 Oct 2002 16:17:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@ifi.uio.no NNTP-Posting-Date: 6 Oct 2002 16:17:05 GMT Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.lisp:43233 * Pascal Costanza | I am not suggesting to treat people like children. I am suggesting that the | "nice" approach ("Positive Feedback First") is more appropriate even when | adults are involved. Please don't exaggerate my position. That /is/ treating people like children. If you start off telling a stranger that you like him as a person but would prefer if he did not do something he did, some people are actually deeply insulted by your misuse of personal relations. I guess the examples I gave did not quite register with you and you only saw a reason to talk about something entirely different, which of course is what happens when you have an open forum and people cannot focus, but try to understand how the following will be interpreted by adults who do not want to have personal relations with other people in a professional setting, please. Here is what I said. Please try to focus on what I say and not only on how you think and feel. Thank you. However, it is more correct that I do not think being liked and accepted should take predence to technical matters /in a technical forum/. It would be inconceivable for me to say "I like you as a person, but you post misinformation about Common Lisp in comp.lang.lisp". I think that would be about as likely as a stock broker saying "I like you as a person, but you give your customers really bad stock advice", or a priest saying to another "I really like you as a person, but could you please cut down on murdering abortion doctors?" -- Erik Naggum, Oslo, Norway Act from reason, and failure makes you rethink and study harder. Act from faith, and failure makes you blame someone and push harder.