Subject: Re: Difference between LISP and C++
From: Erik Naggum <>
Date: 23 Oct 2002 13:16:45 +0000
Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp
Message-ID: <>

* arien <spammers_suck@getlost.invalid>
| The problem is, that the only languages I have learnt are Java and C++. 

  Well, at least you are aware of your handicap.

| Now this, regardless of what you all say about how good it is, puts lisp
| behind the eight-ball when it comes to readability.

  Look, if you spent the time you spent complaining about it just working
  with Common Lisp, the problem would go away by itself.  However, since
  you have gone public with your whining, there is a natural psychological
  barrier to growing a clue: It is easy to recognize and fix a mistake made
  in good faith, but it is hard for many people to recognize that they did
  something stupid, and they spend a lot of time and effort defending their
  stupidity so as to make it appear less stupid.  This tends to slow down
  learning.  All good things come later to those who defend everything they
  do.  Successful people make and fix more mistakes than the unsuccessful.

| But like I said, Java never has this problem.

  This would carry more weight if you said you never had any problems with
  Java whatsoever.  So far, it appears that the /only/ problem you have
  with Common Lisp is the parentheses.  That is pretty good, actually.

Erik Naggum, Oslo, Norway

Act from reason, and failure makes you rethink and study harder.
Act from faith, and failure makes you blame someone and push harder.