Subject: Re: Difference between LISP and C++
From: Erik Naggum <>
Date: 24 Oct 2002 01:46:11 +0000
Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp
Message-ID: <>

* arien <spammers_suck@getlost.invalid>
| wow, you are weird.

  Wow, you did not get the mesasge.  Fascinating.  You really must be hard
  of learning and devoid of ability to find humor in anything, to boot.

| What an insulting reply.

  No, this is an insulting reply.  I really thought you were able to think.
  I keep hoping for that in people.  It is, however, entirely unpredictable
  when someone will wake up from their comatose state and start to use
  their brain.  Sometimes it happens when they are subjected to something
  that is out of the ordinary.  That did not work with you at all.  Instead,
  you seek solace in groups of people who are as unable to think as yourself.
  Some people congregate for things they have in common, others for things
  they lack in common.  This is generally a newsgroup for people who have
  an apperciation for Lisp in common, not a newsgroup for people who lack
  such an appreciation.

| I have so far taken to programming like a duck to water.

  This is good.

| Unfortunately, the water in Lisp is a little boggy, and I KNOW I'm not
| the only one having this problem.

  This is the kind of idiotic judgmentalism that marks you hopeless.  Only
  when you shed this stupid prejudice will you actually learn to program.

| I don't understand why you guys are all so defensive of Lisp.

  We do not understand why you pathetic whiners come to this forum and
  expect to be treated nicely when all you do is talk negatively about the
  things we are fond of and actually come here because we appreciate.

  You are the transgressor here.  You are the whining non-thinking loser
  who does not get the message.  You keep whining instead of working to
  solve your problem.  You are the one who blames your tools, not your own
  attitude and competence.  Why /did/ you expect anyone to accept this as
  normal human behavior?

| Obviously lispers are forever defending their case, and that many others
| in the world are having the same problem.

  You come into a fine restaurant and refuse to read the menu but ask for
  hamburgers because that is what you grew up with.  You do not like to
  have an unintelligible wine list offered to you, because you have no clue
  what anything on it means and you could get a whole truckload of milk
  shakes for the price of just one half-bottle of that french-looking stuff.
  When you are asked if you would like any of the entrées, you quip that
  you already know which way you came in and you cannot understand why you
  cannot order the apple pie for dessert at the same time as the McChicken.
  And you wonder why you people are staring at you and quietly think you
  make a spectacle of yourself, not the other way around?

| I never said I didn't like lisp, I'm just sure I like the people who use
| it though.

  The maitre'd has kindly suggested that you leave the establishment and
  find yourself a restaurant or hot dog stand more suitable to your tastes.

  Welcome back in a few years.  We would like to serve your mature needs.

Erik Naggum, Oslo, Norway

Act from reason, and failure makes you rethink and study harder.
Act from faith, and failure makes you blame someone and push harder.