Subject: Re: Getting the PID in CLISP
From: Erik Naggum <>
Date: 24 Oct 2002 15:06:09 +0000
Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp
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* Sam Steingold <>
| On a UNIX system, CLISP has SYS::PROGRAM-ID for that.

  Why is it called `program-id´ when it returns the process-id?

| Note that you would have received a speedier reply if you asked CLISP-
| specific questions on the <clisp-list> mailing list.

  The point with a general forum is that people who live in their own
  little caves actually get out in the open to share information that is
  pertinent to all users.  But perhaps CLISP is better off hiding away in a
  mailing list?  From my vantage point, hiding away in a mailing list and
  constantly urging people not to share information about CLISP experiences
  suggests that you do, indeed, have somthing to hide.  You also imply that
  the CLISP community believes that what goes on in public is not of
  interest to its members.  I always find arrogance fascinating and try to
  deconstruct it, because sometimes, people have good reason to be
  arrogant, but mostly they are only insecure and prefer isolation from a
  reality that can test their convictions.

Erik Naggum, Oslo, Norway

Act from reason, and failure makes you rethink and study harder.
Act from faith, and failure makes you blame someone and push harder.