From ... Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news-peer-europe.sprintlink.net!news.stupi.se!newsfeed1.ulv.nextra.no!nextra.com!uio.no!nntp.uio.no!ifi.uio.no!not-for-mail From: Erik Naggum Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp Subject: Re: Lisp compiler Date: 28 Oct 2002 15:17:48 +0000 Organization: Naggum Software, Oslo, Norway Lines: 22 Message-ID: <3244807068405009@naggum.no> References: <3244660534332493@naggum.no> <3244745244515415@naggum.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: maud.ifi.uio.no 1035818268 10960 129.240.65.5 (28 Oct 2002 15:17:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@ifi.uio.no NNTP-Posting-Date: 28 Oct 2002 15:17:48 GMT Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.lisp:44899 * Vassil Nikolov | Even though different people may _perceive_ different things to be | valuable, I posted my response nevertheless because I believe that | value is not in the eye of the beholder. Or am I wrong? Value is always in the eye of the behold, but that does not by itself make it subjective. You do not /invent/ the value, but take those parts of the valued object or process or whatever that associate well with other things you value or have valued. The network of valuation is anchored in some core values that you have /chosen/, but there is no such thing as a value relative to nothing (i.e., an absolute or objective value). A subjective value would be relative /only/ to the person. In between these is the personal choices that people make out of the multitude that is available. Thus we can speak of objective potential value in that there is something for someone to value, but the /actual/ value would still be in the eye of the beholder. -- Erik Naggum, Oslo, Norway Act from reason, and failure makes you rethink and study harder. Act from faith, and failure makes you blame someone and push harder.