Subject: Re: Want CL Popularity? Just hack the CIA with it. (promoting CL in counter-culture)
From: Erik Naggum <>
Date: 09 Nov 2002 04:35:33 +0000
Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp
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* (Vlad S.)
| I think the catalyst would be to make people realize what RMS thinks on
| the subject and his history with Lisp machines (hell, the history of the
| MIT hacker - Lisp machine movement in general; most texts of interest to
| free software people only mention how much RMS hated Symbolics, and how
| cool and trendy the minicomputer + C thing was). Up until I started doing
| in-depth Lisp learning I didn't even realize he used it (the
| abovementioned playa-haters scared me away from Emacs). I think far too
| many people attribute free software's success and methods to C.

  I just bought a book on a hunch the other day while trying to get out of
  the magic spell that bookstores seem to cast on me, robbing me of my free
  will and causing me to buy books for no good reason.  I should have all
  my credit cards say "not valid in bookstores unless holder is accompanied
  by a responsible person".

DDC 174.90904 (hacker ethics (!)), ISBN 0-375-50566-0, LCCN 00-053354
Pekka Himanen
The Hacker Ethic and the spirit of the Information Age

  It is an attempt to re-do what Max Weber did with "The Protestant Ethic
  and the Spirit of Capitalism", and is both amusing and illuminating.  It
  has a form of which I cannot in good faith say I approve, but it does a
  good job of what it sets out to do. is referenced.

Erik Naggum, Oslo, Norway

Act from reason, and failure makes you rethink and study harder.
Act from faith, and failure makes you blame someone and push harder.