Subject: Re: some stuff about the 2002 International Lisp Conference in SF
From: Erik Naggum <>
Date: 10 Nov 2002 18:20:42 +0000
Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp
Message-ID: <>

* Andre van Meulebrouck
| The problem with a lot of LISPs is you have to roll your own object
| system and everyone will do it differently (if they will bother at all).

  If you want to address shortcomings of Scheme, the newsgroup is
  comp.lang.scheme and their community also sports conferences.

  "LISP" these days is Common Lisp.

| So, given a Scheme in which I'd have to use closures to roll my own
| object system versus Javascript with its simple built in system; I
| actually do prefer to use Javascript!

  So would many of us Common Lisp programmers.

  BTW, your eager use of the exclamation point makes it very hard to take
  you seriously.  It is hard to imagine a person who makes an exclamation,
  with three exclamation points in some places, willing to listen to any
  argument that could change his mind, as it would tend to give the yeller
  the misconception that people would think he made a fool of himself by
  yelling out something that was false.  Therefore, the more exclamation
  points, the less point there is in trying to talk to the person using them.

Erik Naggum, Oslo, Norway

Act from reason, and failure makes you rethink and study harder.
Act from faith, and failure makes you blame someone and push harder.