Subject: Re: Java as an indicator of stupidity (was Re: What is a monad?)
From: (Rob Warnock)
Date: 2000/01/25
Newsgroups: comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.lang.functional,comp.lang.eiffel,comp.lang.scheme,
Message-ID: <86jq5m$>
Matthew M. Huntbach <> wrote:
| I rather suspect that people who had learnt BASIC as a child and
| then learnt FORTRAN in eight weeks on a science degree are part of the
| explanation for this horrible badly structured code that needs this
| expensive maintaining, which has been discussed in this thread.

And as Edsger Dijkstra said (way back in 1975!) in "How to Tell Truths
That Might Hurt" (reprinted in his "Selected Writings on Computing",

	It is practically impossible to teach good programming to students
	that have had a prior exposure to BASIC: as potential programmers
	they are mentally mutilated beyond hope of regeneration.
	The use of COBOL cripples the mind; its teaching should, therefore,
	be regarded as a criminal offense.
	FORTRAN, "the infantile disorder", by now [1975] nearly 20 years
	old, is hopelessly inadequate for whatever computer application
	you have in mind today: it is now too clumsy, too risky, and too
	expensive to use.

Nice to see how much things have improved in the 25 years since 1975... NOT!


Rob Warnock, 8L-846
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