Subject: Re: Lisp - First Impressions
From: (Rob Warnock)
Date: 2000/06/19
Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp
Message-ID: <8ik4aa$8nem$>
Martin Rodgers wrote:
| How many programmers today even remember Simula?

Or circa-1970 POOMAS (POOr MAn's Simula)? A set of BLISS macros (written
at CMU) that let you create/manipulate Simula-style objects and threads
in BLISS, using the builtin BLISS co-routine call "EXCHJ" for threading.
Years later, Bakul Shah & I ported a POOMAS subset to C ["A Simple Simulation
Toolkit in C", USENIX 1984], using setjmp/longjmp instead of EXCHJ, and
I've have been carrying it around with me ever since, using it for small
one-off discrete event simulation tasks.

So I guess I've been doing "object-oriented programming" for 30 years, eh?

| I feel like I live in age where I'm one of the few living people who 
| can read books. ...  This is computing's Dark Age.

Similar sentiments may be found in Rob Pike talk "Systems Software Research
is Irrelevant" <URL:>.


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