Subject: Re: Anyone remembers LISPOS?
From: (Rob Warnock)
Date: 18 Aug 2000 02:59:42 GMT
Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp
Message-ID: <8ni8qu$honp1$>
Duane Rettig  <> wrote:
| >Frode Vatvedt Fjeld <> writes:
| > Finally, assuming a 4GB address-space (see below),
| Minor correction: most current 32-bit operating systems only give you
| 2 Gb of usable space, though a couple of them can give you 3 Gb.

Yup. For example, see <URL:> for the
the SGI "bigmem" patch for Linux, which supports up to 3.8 GB physical
memory on IA-32, providing up to 3GB user space.  [That URL also contains
a discussion of the performance costs of "bigmem" on IA32, including such
things as forcing drivers to use "bounce buffers" & bcopy'ing to access
certain areas of memory.]

| > So I'm simply ignoring 64-bit architectures (for now).
| By the time you get to the point where you are ready to introduce
| your system to the world, even at worst case for the already late
| IA-64, the new 64-bit operating systems will be out and will fast
| become standard, and you will have latched on to the tail end of
| this 32-bit prevalence.

Confirming signs:

1. We (and others) have already publicly demonstrated large applications
   (e.g., clustered HPC codes) running under IA-64 Linux.

2. Porting of Linux to AMD's "Sledgehammer" (64-bit extension to Athlon)
   has already started. <URL:>

So from what I can see, we'll be starting down the "tail end" of IA-32
by next summer!


Rob Warnock, 41L-955
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