Subject: Re: Where to start
From: (Rob Warnock)
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 06:30:59 -0500
Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp
Message-ID: <>
<RobertMaas@YahooGroups.Com> wrote:
|   From: Daniel Barlow <>
|   it might sooner or later be good to standardize[*] an API for Lisp
|   web applications: something that fulfills a similar role to the java
|   servlet API.}}
| So you're talking about client-side applets, not server-side
| applications, right?

No, he's talking about server-side "applets".

| How did Sun Microsystems manage to get their JavaScript installed
| in both the major Web browsers (MicroSoft InterNet Explorer, and
| Netscape Navigator/Communicator)?

They *DIDN'T*!!! Java != JavaScript, other than sharing the first four
characters of the name. JavaScript was *entirely* the invention of Netscape
(in fact, almost single-handedly by my ex-SGI friend Brendan Eich, see
for some history). Given that JavaScript was in Netscape Navigator (and
that the language spec was deliberately public), Microsoft almost *had*
to put it into IE (so they did).

In fact, one might even make the case that Sun has *failed* in getting
client-side Java applets accepted [outside of some limited use in a few
companies' proprietary enterprise applications].

Server-side Java, on the other hand, is alive & well. (For some values
of "well"...)


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