From: Jim Veitch

Subject: Re: Franz ACL 4.3.2 for Windows compared to ACL 3.0.1

Date: 1997-6-8 14:28

Dear John:

Yes, ACL 4.3.2 for NT (doesn't run on Win95) is, as you have seen a high
performance port of our UNIX optimizing compiler.  So why don't we promote it?

1. We are working hard to get it to run well under Win95.

2. We are working hard to get the PC GUI (Common Graphics and the Interface
Builder) ported and to run well on it.  This is a very major task and will
take us a while yet.  CLIM runs on it, but our major effort is going to
port the PC GUI.

3. We are working hard to add some Windows specific components such as OLE
capability.

4. We are redoing the GUI somewhat to be more like, for example, the Visual
Basic interface (note we aren't giving up on the advantages of Lisp,
though!).  That way we believe we will be able to attract new users into
the Lisp world more easily.

ACL 4.3.2 + the PC GUI (redone as in 4.) is the basis for our next major
release (ACL 5.0) and will replace both ACL Win 3.0 and ACL 4.3.

On the other hand, if you have a use for a high performance Windows NT Lisp
with Multi-threading and with CLIM only GUI (or a direct interface into the
WinAPI), then ACL 4.3.2 for NT is just right for you and we will talk about
making available to you (contact <franz.com). at sales>  Examples include people
who might want to build a Webserver or who have an existing UNIX/CLIM
implementation.  But we haven't been actively promoting because we have
been pushing so hard towards the next major release (ACL 5.0).

Regards,

Jim Veitch
Franz Inc.

At 08:44 PM 6/7/97 -0400, John D. Watton wrote:
>I recently got to try out a beta copy of Franz ACL 4.3.2 for >Windows. It is a port of their UNIX optimizing compiler to >Windows. Not to be confused with their port of 4.3 to Linux. Anyway, >based on my two benchmarks it has much performance gain over Franz ACL >3.0.1. Which makes me wonder why Franz doesn't promote it. It comes >with the same development environment as the Unix product using GNU >emacs 19.34 as the editor. You won't find this product memtioned >anywhere on their web site (except the UNIX and Linux versions). I >don't know if Common-Graphics or Clim is available or if there is any >GUI builder available for or included in our beta copy. > >Machine: Pentium 90 Mhz, 40 M memory >OS: Windows NT 3.51 > >Pnpoly Benchmark sec >---------------- --- >VC++ 4.2 (cl -Ox) 15.4 >Franz ACL 4.3.2 22.8 >Franz ACL 3.0.1 525.6 >Perl5.003 1196.0 > >Rhyme Benchmark read string sort write total >--------------- ---- rev's ---- ----- ----- > ------ >Franz ACL 4.3.2 1.84 1.44 2.22 0.74 6.24 >Perl5.003 2.00 16.00 2.00 2.00 22.00 >Franz ACL 3.0.1 30.10 1.60 5.35 19.60 56.65 > >Notes: The original C version of pnpoly came from the Usenet >comp.graphics.algorithms FAQ. It is a function to determine if a 2d >point is inside a closed polygon using the ray crossing algorithm. The >rhyme benchmark is based on the code on page 224 of "ANSI Common Lisp" >by Paul Graham. It is a function that reads a file of words one per >line and composes a rhyming dictionary with them. For this test I >copied the file /usr/dict/words from a UNIX machine (approx 25000 >words). Unfortunately, I don't have a C version of this benchmark. It >seemed like a lot of work compared to how easily it can be done in >lisp or Perl. > > >LISP-RHYME-LISP-RHYME-LISP-RHYME-LISP-RHYME-LISP-RHYME-LISP-RHYME-LISP > >(defun rhyme (from to &aux dict) > ;; for from file use /usr/dict/words from a UNIX machine > (declare (optimize (speed 3) (safety 0))) > (with-open-file (in from :direction :input) > (setq dict (loop for w = (read-line in nil nil) > until (not w) collect w))) > (setq dict (mapc #'nreverse dict)) > (setq dict (sort dict #'string<)) > (setq dict (mapc #'nreverse dict)) > (with-open-file (out to :direction :output :if-exists :supersede) > (dolist (x dict) (write-line x out)))) > >LISP-PNPOLY-LISP-PNPOLY-LISP-PNPOLY-LISP-PNPOLY-LISP-PNPOLY-LISP-PNPOLY > >(defun pnpoly (npol xp yp x y) > (declare (optimize (speed 3) (safety 0)) > (fixnum npol) > (double-float x y) > (type (simple-array double-float (*)) xp yp)) > (let* ((c nil) > (j (1- npol))) > (declare (fixnum j)) > (dotimes (i npol c) > (declare (fixnum i)) > (if (and (or (and (<= (aref yp i) y) (< y (aref yp j))) > (and (<= (aref yp j) y) (< y (aref yp i)))) > (< x (+ (aref xp i) (/ (* (- (aref xp j) (aref xp i)) (- y (aref
yp i)))
> (- (aref yp j) (aref yp i)))))) > (setq c (not c))) > (setq j i)))) > >(defun pnpolytest () > (declare (optimize (speed 3) (safety 0))) > (let ((npol 20) > (count 0) > (xp (make-array 20 :element-type 'double-float > :initial-contents '(0.0d0 1.0d0 1.0d0 0.0d0 0.0d0 1.0d0 -0.5d0 -1.0d0 > -1.0d0 -2.0d0 -2.5d0 -2.0d0 -1.5d0 -0.5d0 1.0d0 > 1.0d0 0.0d0 -0.5d0 -1.0d0 -.5d0))) > (yp (make-array 20 :element-type 'double-float > :initial-contents '(0.0d0 0.0d0 1.0d0 1.0d0 2.0d0 3.0d0 2.0d0 3.0d0 > 0.0d0 -0.5d0 -1.0d0 -1.5d0 -2.0d0 -2.0d0 -1.5d0 > -1.0d0 -0.5d0 -1.0d0 -1.0d0 -0.5d0)))) > (declare (fixnum npol count) > (type (simple-array double-float (20)) xp yp)) > (dotimes (i 100000) > (if (pnpoly npol xp yp 0.5d0 0.5d0) (incf count)) > (if (pnpoly npol xp yp 0.5d0 1.5d0) (incf count)) > (if (pnpoly npol xp yp -0.5d0 1.5d0) (incf count)) > (if (pnpoly npol xp yp 0.75d0 2.25d0) (incf count)) > (if (pnpoly npol xp yp 0.0d0 2.01d0) (incf count)) > (if (pnpoly npol xp yp -0.5d0 2.5d0) (incf count)) > (if (pnpoly npol xp yp -1.0d0 -0.5d0) (incf count)) > (if (pnpoly npol xp yp -1.5d0 0.5d0) (incf count)) > (if (pnpoly npol xp yp -2.25d0 -1.0d0) (incf count)) > (if (pnpoly npol xp yp 0.5d0 -0.25d0) (incf count)) > (if (pnpoly npol xp yp 0.5d0 -1.25d0) (incf count)) > (if (pnpoly npol xp yp -0.5d0 -2.5d0) (incf count))) > (princ "Count ") (princ count) > count)) > >PERL-RHYME-PERL-RHYME-PERL-RHYME-PERL-RHYME-PERL-RHYME-PERL-RHYME-PERL > >$in = "words.txt"; >open(INFILE, $in); >while (<INFILE>) { > chop; > push @words, $_; >} <words at >> = map {pack "C*", (reverse (unpack "C*", $_))} @words; <words at >> = sort @words; <words at >> = map {pack "C*", (reverse (unpack "C*", $_))} @words; >$out = "rhyme.txt"; >open(OUTFILE, ">$out"); >map {print (OUTFILE $_, "\n")} @words; > >PERL-PNPOLY-PERL-PNPOLY-PERL-PNPOLY-PERL-PNPOLY-PERL-PNPOLY-PERL > >sub pnpoly { > my($npol, $xxp, $yyp, $x, $y) = @_; > my($j, $c, $i) = ($npol - 1, 0, 0); > for ($i = 0; $i < $npol; $i++) { > if (((($$yyp[$i] <= $y) && ($y < $$yyp[$j])) || > (($$yyp[$j] <= $y) && ($y < $$yyp[$i]))) && > ($x < (($$xxp[$j] - $$xxp[$i]) * > ($y - $$yyp[$i]) / > ($$yyp[$j] - $$yyp[$i]) + $$xxp[$i]))) { > $c = !$c;} > $j = $i; > } > $c; >} > >sub pnpolytest { > local($npol, $count, @xp, @yp); > $npol ; > $count=0; > @xp = (0.0,1.0,1.0,0.0,0.0,1.0,-.5,-1.0,-1.0,-2.0, > -2.5,-2.0,-1.5,-.5,1.0,1.0,0.0,-.5,-1.0,-.5); > @yp = (0.0,0.0,1.0,1.0,2.0,3.0,2.0,3.0,0.0,-.5, > -1.0,-1.5,-2.0,-2.0,-1.5,-1.0,-.5,-1.0,-1.0,-.5); > for(1..100000) { > if <yp,0.5,0.5)) at (pnpoly($npol,\@xp,\> {$count++}; > if <yp,0.5,1.5)) at (pnpoly($npol,\@xp,\> {$count++}; > if <yp,-0.5,1.5)) at (pnpoly($npol,\@xp,\> {$count++}; > if <yp,0.75,2.25)) at (pnpoly($npol,\@xp,\> {$count++}; > if <yp,0.0,2.01)) at (pnpoly($npol,\@xp,\> {$count++}; > if <yp,-0.5,2.5)) at (pnpoly($npol,\@xp,\> {$count++}; > if <yp,-1.0,-0.5)) at (pnpoly($npol,\@xp,\> {$count++}; > if <yp,-1.5,0.5)) at (pnpoly($npol,\@xp,\> {$count++}; > if <yp,-2.25,-1.0)) at (pnpoly($npol,\@xp,\> {$count++}; > if <yp,0.5,-0.25)) at (pnpoly($npol,\@xp,\> {$count++}; > if <yp,0.5,-1.25)) at (pnpoly($npol,\@xp,\> {$count++}; > if <yp,-0.5,-2.5)) at (pnpoly($npol,\@xp,\> {$count++}; > } > print "\n count ", $count, "\n"; >} > >C-PNPOLY-C-PNPOLY-C-PNPOLY-C-PNPOLY-C-PNPOLY-C-PNPOLY-C-PNPOLY-C > >int pnpoly(int npol, double *xp, double *yp, double x, double y) >{ > int i, j, c = 0; > for (i = 0, j = npol-1; i < npol; j = i++) { > if ((((yp[i]<=y) && (y<yp[j])) || > ((yp[j]<=y) && (y<yp[i]))) && > (x < (xp[j] - xp[i]) * (y - yp[i]) / (yp[j] - yp[i]) + xp[i])) > c = !c; > } > return c; >} > >main() { > int npol , count=0; > double xp[20]= {0.0,1.0,1.0,0.0,0.0,1.0,-0.5,-1.0,-1.0,-2.0, > -2.5,-2.0,-1.5,-.5,1.0,1.0,0.0,-0.5,-1.0,-.5}; > double yp[20]= {0.0,0.0,1.0,1.0,2.0,3.0,2.0,3.0,0.0,-.5, > -1.0,-1.5,-2.0,-2.0,-1.5,-1.0,-.5,-1.0,-1.0,-.5}; > int i=0; > for(i=0;i<100000;i++) { > if (pnpoly(npol,xp,yp,0.5,0.5)) count++; > if (pnpoly(npol,xp,yp,0.5,1.5)) count++; > if (pnpoly(npol,xp,yp,-0.5,1.5)) count++; > if (pnpoly(npol,xp,yp,0.75,2.25)) count++; > if (pnpoly(npol,xp,yp,0.0,2.01)) count++; > if (pnpoly(npol,xp,yp,-0.5,2.5)) count++; > if (pnpoly(npol,xp,yp,-1.0,-0.5)) count++; > if (pnpoly(npol,xp,yp,-1.5,0.5)) count++; > if (pnpoly(npol,xp,yp,-2.25,-1.0)) count++; > if (pnpoly(npol,xp,yp,0.5,-0.25)) count++; > if (pnpoly(npol,xp,yp,0.5,-1.25)) count++; > if (pnpoly(npol,xp,yp,-0.5,-2.5)) count++; > } > printf("count %d \n", count); > return(0); >} > >-- >John D. Watton >Alcoa > > >