Subject: Re: contra graham
From: Erik Naggum <>
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 00:21:03 GMT
Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp
Message-ID: <>

* Gordon Joly
| I did not attack the person.

  Stop lying, too.  This is what you said:

    I would submit that that terms such a "nonsense" and phrases like
    "ignorant fucks who plaster their prejudice..." and "crappy reasoning"
    are not the hallmarks of a measured debate. These types of remarks
    usually demonstrate sloppy thought and hasty delivery.

  This is a classic ad hominem argument.  If you are so concerned about
  "measured debate" as you seem to be, when you are not conducting it
  yourself, you need to find a reasonably good book on argumentation and
  look up what ad hominem means if you do not recognize your own as such.
  In a fight against something, the fight has value, victory has none.
  In a fight for something, the fight is a loss, victory merely relief.

  70 percent of American adults do not understand the scientific process.