Subject: Re: contra graham From: Erik Naggum <email@example.com> Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 00:21:03 GMT Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp Message-ID: <firstname.lastname@example.org> * Gordon Joly | I did not attack the person. Stop lying, too. This is what you said: I would submit that that terms such a "nonsense" and phrases like "ignorant fucks who plaster their prejudice..." and "crappy reasoning" are not the hallmarks of a measured debate. These types of remarks usually demonstrate sloppy thought and hasty delivery. This is a classic ad hominem argument. If you are so concerned about "measured debate" as you seem to be, when you are not conducting it yourself, you need to find a reasonably good book on argumentation and look up what ad hominem means if you do not recognize your own as such. -- In a fight against something, the fight has value, victory has none. In a fight for something, the fight is a loss, victory merely relief. 70 percent of American adults do not understand the scientific process.