Subject: Re: Free Common Lisp for PPC? From: Erik Naggum <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: 1998/05/05 Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp Message-ID: <email@example.com> * David Bakhash | what are the downsides of CLISP? mainly lack of commitment to ANSI Common Lisp. the developers have many peculiar attitudes against several important aspects of the language, and have refused to implement necessary functionality to support writing ANSI-conforming Common Lisp code. it is also slow in some areas and very fast in others, which skews your priorities in optimizing your code, basically away from writing your own abstractions and using "raw Common Lisp", because it does that really fast. it has an amazingly fast bignum implementation, for instance. it also sports variable-length floating point numbers. such things may matter much to some. conformance matters more to me, so I don't use CLISP, anymore. | I noticed that it's .fas files are still ascii. does that imply that | they're somehow limited in how fast they can exectute (relative to, say, | Allegro, which dumps some sort of binary in its .fasl files). this is a very faulty conclusion. what you see is never what you get. external and internal representation of objects has long been a major issue with the Lisp family. a list is not a list in memory, it's a number of cons cells and machine pointers and such. the external form of the function objects in CLISP is ASCII for a number of good reasons. the internal form is efficient in its own ways and is still machine bytes. the external form of various objects in Allegro's FASL files are binary for a number of good reasons. the internal form is efficient in its own ways, but the FASL file still interpreted as a byte stream to conctruct them. so it's same difference. #:Erik -- Support organized crime: use Microsoft products!