Subject: Re: size of executables?
From: Erik Naggum <>
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 17:49:31 GMT
Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp
Message-ID: <>

* Aleksandr Skobelev <>
> Where have I wrote about disk space?

  Please do not be coy with me.  The way you have defined standalone
  executable is definitely a disk-space argument.

> By the way, I don't understand why my wish of Lisp system can generate
> small applications is so horrible?

  Look, I have already told you it is not, in fact, that it is a good thing
  for certain limited purposes.  Please pay attention to what I say if you
  wish to talk with me.  I am _trying_ to be patient with you, but you are
  turning out to be very, very annoying and persistent in repeating things
  that have been refuted by several people.  Why are you doing this?  My
  "USENET troll" sensor is peaking.

> You have missed my point here. I argue that some qualities of CL
> realizations won't allowed me to start using it on my work very soon. 

  My argument is that those are not some qualities of CL, but some of
  _your_ qualities in interaction with some of the qualities of CL.  You
  seem very persistent in ignoring your own background and argue as if you
  have some very fixed ideas about what is right and wrong.  One of the
  best things about Common Lisp is that we learn the meaning and importance
  of tradeoffs in a much deeper and more profound way than any other
  language.  Common Lisp people have to pay for their features.  ("Pay" and
  "buy" do not necessarily refer to money, but to any resource.)  Some
  other languages give you no choice, so it works just like taxation.

> I would prefer that CL environment has been preinstalled on any platform. :)

  Well, this silly response may actually be the core of your problems.  You
  have to deal with reality as it exists.  Asking people to deal with you
  in terms of your dreams is not at all inspiring to anybody but yourself.