Subject: Re: Unwelcome mail from the stalkers From: Erik Naggum <erik@naggum.net> Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 12:37:19 GMT Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp Message-ID: <3219914234362460@naggum.net> * Jean-François Brouillet <ve...@mac.com> | "Can't call it quit" <erik@naggum.net> wrote: *snicker* Are you _sure_ your computer display is not a mirror? | So risking to get even more bored (that's already done, Oh Hole In The | Skull) than humiliated (what you write would need to be of value, it is | only a nuisance) I'll assign myself the duty to answer the unique monkey, | among the 2^128, that hit on the possibility of producing utterable | sentences, but failed to pick the few that would mean anything. Amusing. Psychotic ranting. What more direct evidence of your very serious personality disorders can we expect, now? Get help, OK? That was the first thing I said to your amazing behavior, and you have gone on to prove that you have very serious personality disorders and _need_ help. | - you turned down an offer for peace | - you did so in a most offensive way An offer for _peace_? An offer for a face-saving measure that would allow the psychopath to feel better about himself while insulting his victim once more is maybe an "offer" to ask people to give _you_ peace of mind, but you do not quite understand that you have done something bad and wrong here, have you? Conditional apologies are _not_ offers for peace, it is instead very clear evidence that you are going to attack people forever, no matter what they do in return, so being nice to you is not an option. In fact, being nice to something so vile as Jean-François Brouillet means that he is treated _unjustly_. Destructive assholes like Jean-François Brouillet should be crushed, destroyed, humiliated until they cry themselves to sleep. There is a way out for the psychopath, however: Just be polite and courteous, and apologize for your behavior. If you really _want_ politeness and courtesy, just start. If you think this is humiliating, which of course it would be only if you do not _really_ want politeness and courtesy, just grin and bear it. You see, I am doing more than you apparently can understand here. I have trashed and humiliated you in response to what you consider good behavior _specifically_ to see if you respond rationally and turn into a polite and courteous contributor, because that is how you have approached me, remember? Did this cause you to get a clue and start to behave well? No, quite the contrary. So, if not even your _tactics_ work on yourself, there is no reason at all to believe you have a constructive purpose at all. Psychopaths want personal _power_, they do not want what they say they want -- it is just a means to control other people. They do not respond to what they think is good and useful tactics when they employ them against others. This sheer lack of constructiveness and empathy is what defines the psychopath's behavioral pattern. Remember, nobody invited you here, nobody asked you to attack me, nobody forces you to keep posting, and nobody else shrieks their requests for politeness and courtesy right now, but _you_ do not _deliver_. You keep attacking, so your "peace offers" are nothing if not completely vacuous. | In this world we have to bear with the Naggum and his likes, unless... | unless... enlightenment were to hit him, in which case: | | Stop the ridicule, Naggum: go die. *snicker* Are you _sure_ your computer display is not a mirror? What kind of fights would we have had here if it were not for your kind and your attacks? I am defending myself from _your_ attacks, remember? You opened fire, you attacked, and you did so without provocation, and you _refuse_ to quit. _You_ get to quit, Jean-François Brouillet, not me. You blame me for your insanity and psychopathy, and you seem to _believe_ that you are not the problem, but you _are_ the problem, and you represent a kind of people who _completely_ lack politeness and courtesy. Nothing you do will ever change that. Nothing I do will ever change that. I am sick and tired of scumbags like you, and I told you that you were not going to recover from this. Why are you so eager to demonstrate that you will continue to attack forever? You can just quit and be polite and courteous like you demand from others, apologize in a credible manner, and that will be the end of it. This would be easy for you to do, according to yourself. WHY DO YOU REFUSE TO DO IT??? So, when will enlightenment hit you, Jean-François Brouillet? When will you _understand_ that you came out of nowhere to attack me and that you will be driven away if you do not quit, the more humiliated the more you resist and persist? Psychos like you have come to comp.lang.lisp time and again. You are the problem here. People who cannot accept that they have done something wrong, will continue to make a hell of a ruckus when they are criticized. Those who are so amazingly lacking in both intelligence and coping strategies as you are, will come out of nowhere to attack me once again. Nothing has changed. Nothing will change. As long as people do something wrong, and you are one of them, some people will speak their mind on it, politely at first (which you did _not_ do), and then hostilely when the schmuck who cannot tolerate being corrected goes postal and attacks the messenger. This world will always suffer bad guys like Jean-François Brouillet, we cannot rid ourselves of psychopaths and other people who use violence when they feel helpless and powerless, and there is absolutely nothing we can do about these amoral scumbags, but it is vitally important that not a single soul do as they say. Politeness and courtesy is a weapon among these people because if other people are required to be nice, _they_ can be much worse and can attack people if they are not polite and courteous to their attackers. But like terrorists who see that their tactics work by letting normal people be beat into submission, one must _not_ bow to psychopaths like Jean-François Brouillet. And before anyone thinks that Jean-François Brouillet is unique or that I am the only one that psychopaths attack, there are psychopaths everywhere on USENET who fight against all _kinds_ of normal rules. Take a look at news.groups to watch some _real_ nutjobs rebel against the rules for creating new newsgroups, crying conspiracy and whatnot if their choice of newsgroups do not get created. If you have charter for a newsgroup, watch some real psychos fight everybody who try to keep discussion within the boundaries of the charter. If you have a moderator, watch people attack the moderator just for _being_ the moderator. There are immature, insane people who want to be the judges of absolutely everything. For instance, there is no doubt at all how followup messages on USENET shall be identified with "Re: " as a prefix in the Subject header field, but Microsoft, of course, has believed that "re" is an abbreviation for "reply", since their ignorance and illiteracy when it comes to reading specifications is insurmountable, so they helpfully "translate" this when they produce Outlook Express in various languages (which should be an important lesson to people who want things "localized"), but when someone politely requests that an Outlook Express user fix this, some nutjobs will fight tooth and nail to admit no fault, and the psychopaths come in to attack those who simply want _software_ be behave for no better reason that _they_ are not the judge of correct behavior. USENET is the only place you can find people who fight against common sense with a vengeance. Finally, it is _never_ politeness and courtesy these lunatics want. (If it were, they would simply prove the superiority of being polite and courteous.) They want _other_ people to be polite and courteous because _they_ do not want to feel humiliated or threatened, but who can tell what makes a deranged lunatic feel humiliated or threatened by just and proper criticism, especially by proxy as the worst of these outcasts do? These people react extremely hostilely to any feeling that somebody else tells them what to do and are unable to cope with the helplessness and powerlessness they feel after being told what to do, but this is not anybody else can fix for them. Jean-François Brouillet, please start to behave politely and courteously. An excellent start is to offer your apology to me and to this newsgroups in good spirit, and promise _never_ to repeat your vile actions here. No matter how much abuse of _your_ rules you see here, _you_ will at least always be polite and courteous. It should be very easy for you to comply. /// --