Subject: Re: Understanding Erik Naggum
From: Erik Naggum <>
Date: 06 Oct 2002 17:32:52 +0000
Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp
Message-ID: <>

* Pascal Costanza
| No, it isn't.

  For a person who only talks about what you think and feel, you are
  awfully persistent.

| I know what I am talking about in this regard.

  Of course you do.  Listening to others was ruled out long ago.

| Why are you so sure about your assessment of the "nice" approach?
| Have you actually seen it fail?  Repeatedly?

  Yes, but you would not believe me.

| Sorry, how can you avoid a personal relation with people you need to deal
| with?

  Oh Christ.  You really /have/ no concept of professional relationships.

| We are having a personal relation right now, aren't we?


| What is it that I get wrong here?

  That you are in a discussion, not a social club.

| OK, here is suggestion that is more concrete:

  Oh Christ.  Do you have the capacity to listen to other people?

| Of course, sometimes it doesn't work - but in my experience this is very
| seldom the case.

  Your data is only how you feel about these things.  You have explicitly
  rejected measurements that would establish whether what you believe would
  actually hold water under testing and you reject counter-information
  before you could possibly have thought about it and evaluated it.
  Therefore, what you present to us is indeed what you think and feel, and
  nobody should pay any attention to it because you do not pay attention to
  the information that would invalidate or update it.

Erik Naggum, Oslo, Norway

Act from reason, and failure makes you rethink and study harder.
Act from faith, and failure makes you blame someone and push harder.