From: Francis Leboutte

Subject: Re: New to Franz LISP: a couple of questions

Date: 1997-6-26 8:16

At 16:10 21/06/97 -0400, Donald H. Mitchell wrote:
>Francis Leboutte wrote: >
>> ..I have >> been satisfied with the AllegroStore 1.1.x versions: very easy to use >> (it >> was very easy to port an existing application to Allegrostore), a bit >> slow >> and not very well integrated in the development environment (e.g. no >> online >> help for the AS functions). The final application has proved to be >> very >> reliable. >> >> However the last version (1.2) seems to be a true disaster even if the >> >> performance has been improved ..
> >As one of the original VARs to sponsor the astore development, I have a >very different experience. I've found 1.2 to be vastly superior to 1.1 >in speed, function, and reliability. We could not deliver our >application under 1.1 due to reliability and performance problems. We >are delivering it under 1.2. There are differences, but they are well >known ...
Apparently we have a rather different experience with 1.2. Actually I have switched back to AS 1.1.12. Maybe you are using Allegrostore on a Unix machine (I use AS with ACL4W 3.0.2 and WIndows NT4), maybe most of my problems are du to the inverse functions I use. Anyway, in my opinion, the addition of AS (1.1 or 1.2) to ACL4W has the effect to make the development *tool* clearly less robust.
>> Current version is 1.2 . Too many crashes (application exception -> >> access >> violation), undefined bugs ("hard error") and other various bugs (e.g. >> in >> the inverse functions)...
> >I removed all uses of inverse fns in our application a long time ago >because the performance was so poor. I was thinking about adding them >now that 1.2 advertises great improvements. Perhaps I should avoid them. > >As far as hard errors and access violations, have you checked the >aclxdump.txt files to see if they captured a backtrace? We have >experienced some access violations (about one every 100 hours of use) >but have not been able to detect a pattern nor get reliable backtraces >in the aclxdump files. Stack overflows are mostly likely problems in >your code: the aclxdump files should help. >
I don't think so. I experiment these stack overflows with AS 1.2 and the code that has been used several months in production (or this code plus very small additions). Frankly I don't want to explore the aclxdump.txt file (actually I have no time for that). Of course I have sent this file to the support when requested. Francis -- Francis Leboutte, Algorithme, Rue de la Charrette 141, 4130 Tilff, Belgium <skynet.be at f.leboutte> <acm.org at leboutte> http://users.skynet.be/algo t&fax: +32-(0)4-388.35.28