Subject: Re: What Lisp needs to beat Java, etc.
From: Erik Naggum <>
Date: 2000/11/30
Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp
Message-ID: <>

* Tim Bradshaw <>
| In this context -- at least in my dialect which is not the same as
| Kent's as we're on opposite sides of the Atlantic -- this use of
| `honest' doesn't have an implication of lying (actually your quote of
| what he said is not so good, some of the surrounding words matter
| somehow).

  And not the least the order of evaluation.  "If they were honest, a
  lot of them would ..." does not imply that the first "they" refers to
  everybody out of which a lot would, etc, but rather that the second
  "them" refers to everbody, a lot of _whom_, if they were honest (with
  themselves), would, etc.  This is sort of like getting SELECT clauses
  right in SQL queries.

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    Let Texas secede from the Union and elect George W. Bush their
    very first President.  All parties, states would rejoice.